my boss wants me to lie to coworkers about my commute, my employer moved our office to an inconvenient location. Yeah I agree that thats a SoCal thing. Try carpool with coworkers that live in or near Orange County. The most frustrating thing about it is we could have had such a nice light rail system by now had people in the late 60s/early 70s not voted down the initiative (with 2/3rds of the project federally funded). Nope nope nope. Your boyfriend can move to you this time. I had a long distance job and I was able to survive through it with carpooling. What works for one person doesnt always work for another, so its important to figure out what works best for your sanity! Both hubby and I had long commutes in our previous jobs, but within the last few years got jobs in new locations much closer to home with much better commutes. You also have a long day, on top of the commute. Sure, it was nice to sometimes get home early but being able to reliably plan dinner cooking, meeting up with friends, errands and appointments, etc fits much better into our life. According to that research, only about 2.5% of workers nationwide have 1-way commutes over 90 minutes. They both decided that we should get off the highway and go the backroads, which, of course, was probably one of the worst neighborhoods and were driving a rented Camaro convertible. Singing/ screaming along to some really loud music was the only thing left in my bag of tricks. I was commuting outward, and as someone new to the area, I foolishly assumed that Id be going opposite of traffic, and that it wouldnt be an issue. I feel like I have no life! Id take a 30 minute drive over a 15 minute bus ride. I could drive, but parking at my workplace is expensive and wed have to buy a second car on top of everything. My car was still like new after 2 years of a 25 mile each way commute in the south. Your company doesnt need someone who speaks fluent Russian or German do they? This 30-year-old commutes 4 hours and 140 miles for work in San Francisco every day. My commute is 7 minutes from door to door. I live in the Houston area (suburb & commute to the loop) and my job is 20 miles from me which is anywhere from 45 minutes- 1hr 15 minutes an an average day. Possibly doing a trial period to see what he thinks. I totally get where youre coming from and I hope you find a job in a better location!! Its kind of improved my attitude toward it on most daysbut I still daydream of the days when Ill be able to kick back with a movie while my self-driving car does all the work :). This is how I discovered audiobooks. 4! Horror or smart comedy (like George Carlin and seinfeld)! +1 Day. At rush hour, it can take 40 minutes or more, but I usually have the luxury of working from home in the morning and then going to the office. I know other people whove done the same, and not all uber-rich techies or bankers, either. Fullerton, Anaheim, Irvine and Santa Ana have Amtrak and metrolink as well as freeways. My employers local office is in Seattle, and I used to live within walking distance. I now have two traffic lights that slow me down to 10 minutes. Front Runner (mass transit) is about 90 minutes. Of course, being able to just clock out and listen to music or something on the train is what makes it bearable. I lived there for 20 years and traffic was always bad. I actually have no idea how far it is to most of the places I go regularly, just how long it takes to get there at various times of the day. I lived in Northern California and the commutes were similarly awful. stop and go. My own commute is 15 minutes and that includes a stop to get breakfast. He is not destructive on these days either but he isn't a destructive dog in . Not only are all houses money pits, my executive function issues are too severe for me to deal with the major responsibility of it all. I dont have any advice but you have my deepest sympathy. OP, commutes are really important to quality of life and employers understand when theyre not feasible. is so funny (someone in the film thinks building freeways will make traffic jams a thing of the past). Not all at the same time, it was just one of the hazards of country driving. I imagined conversations like, Two hours, isnt that crazy! My husband (with the 2 hour commute) leaves before daycare opens, and gets home after it closes. Ill also mention that Ive been here for 13 years, and I dont know anyone who does a 2 hour commute. Were trying to move up our moving plans by several months because of this. There are crappy parts and amazing parts and it sounds like a lot of us call this place home. . My commute is 20 minutes in the morning and 25-30 in the evenings. I can do the drive in 20-30 minutes, depending what time I leave. If your boss likes to come in late, and stay late, could you do that as well? 2) Move closer to your work (may not be possible) COL wasnt that bad but holy crap after over a decade of having a commute, it was not good on my overall health. People do work very hard to coordinate their living locations in a place that makes sense for their work locations here for sure. We plan on moving closer to my husbands work as soon as we hit the 2 year mark of owning our condo and can sell it without being taxed. For anyone looking to move to LA for a job, you really, really have to think hard about where youll be living in relation to where this job is. Right? I started biking to and from work because it took me 30 mins regardless of what trafficwas . I occasionally used to do a 60 mile return commute - that was way too much time out of the house - looking at 13 hours from leaving home to getting back. Ahhhhh, Im so happy for you. The big difference is that NYC (and most of the big cities in the northeast) were big cities before autos became common. Its not my favorite thing in the world but Im willing to do it for family reasons, and given how many people I see taking the train with me I know Im not the only one! It is normal for some places. I stuck it out for around six years because the pay and benefits were good, but I hated it. (?). Tracy/Manteca/Stockton are solidly San Joaquin Valley, and a commute from anywhere south of Ceres (including Merced) is not considered commutable by most folks. It will be easier in the long run. But depending on your field it is just something we sadly have to deal with. Thank you :D. I use them to read books that I wouldnt have purchased or spent valuable eye-reading time on, and Ive discovered a few favorite authors that I wouldnt have expected. To answer your overall question, you can be successful with strength training 2x/wk, but it will come down to how structured your programming is in terms of volume, repetition, intensity, and progressive overload. It was part of the reason I ended up quitting that job. In theory, you can have densely packed cars drive. I think thats on the long side even for LA. Im in the Tulsa, OK area and our average commute is 20 minutes so 2 hours is absurd given my frame of reference. Last year, I took a position where I had to commute from my parents house in Westchester to eastern LI (driving 63 miles each way). 4:30 am get up, 40 min ride to a yoga studio near work, 1 hour class, 7:30 5:30 at work (usually start at 830 but if my 1 of my 2 bosses is in early that means I have to start when I arrive, no lunch (always so busy that I can never step away), 5:30 pm leave, 7:30 8 pm home, luckily my bf makes dinner and then I fall into bed half dead and repeat that 4 more times. Its totally fine. The distance between my house and my office was about 13 miles. Coming home, though, was awful. (But noise canceling headphones fix that issue!). Any longer and I would start to really resent it cutting into my free time so much. I would never take a job with a 2 hour commute unless it was short term. While it wasnt the only straw to break the proverbial camels back at OldJob, going from a 20 minute commute to at least an hour and 10 minutes was hellish for me. Noooo. The time, the increased risk of harm, the wear and tear on your car and nerves. My 10.5 mile commute from Oakland to SF is faster than the 4 mile commute on Muni from my bfs place to my office. Here's better advice: Utilize the Park and Rides from Metro, or the commuter shuttles in your area like The Woodlands Express. HOUSTON (AP) A former suburban Houston police officer was set to be executed Tuesday for hiring two people to kill his estranged wife nearly 30 years ago. Youre not crazy. On weekdays, I have to deal with the traffic around the industrial complexes that have been built near where I work (and whoever planned the roads, *didnt* plan for the additional traffic!). The scariest was a semi truck veering across 5 lanes of traffic to land onto the interstate median and surprisingly no other car was involved. By absolute standards, commuting two hours one-way is not normal, but in some areas, its depressingly normal. 2-hour commutes are something we are used to and weve even experienced what we call carmageddon; wherein rush hour is like a huge parking lot and it took 4 friggin hours to get home (thats right! Counterintuitively, mid-day is often worse than rush hour because there are more parked cars and often lane closures for construction of one kind or another. If I had to commute in and out of NY 5 days a week, theres no way I could handle it, so I feel you OP. Im running out of podcasts to binge. Im job searching and having a hard time applying for companies that would put me in a car for longer than that or a bus for more than an hour. Big difference if you avoid the stop and go. That said, in OC and some parts of LA county, it is entirely possible to work minutes away from your residence, or find alternate routes, or work non-peak traffic hours. Commuting sucks and I hope you can find something closer to you! And its even got the added bonus of freeing up the Pasadena parking lots because fewer people are leaving their cars there, theyre leaving them at the Azusa stop. In case you do think about moving: The first worst commute is Valley to west side, the second is San Gabriel Valley to Culver City area, and the third worst is south LA/Garden Grove/LB to anywhere north of DTLA, regardless of whether youre going east or west of DTLA. We decided we didnt want to pay 2-3x the housing costs that were paying now. I miss some things about city life, but I dont miss city commutes, and I will have to be living somewhere amazing to go back to that kind of lifestyle. Oh, OP, I feel for you. It was a nightmare and I said I would NEVER do it again. LA traffic was nowhere as bad as the 401 in the Toronto area. Its open season on the LA Freeway!, (I can quote every line of this movie. The patterns would be a little kinder. In the east coast big cities I also think that they are more psychologically inclined to live IN the city itself not just because of necessity but also there doesnt seem (from my limited perspective on the west coast) to be a big social stigma attached to it. Ultimately I think the question for you is not whats normal for your region, but what feels doable and sustainable for you in the long-term. She once got caught in the pass and it took her 6 hours. I was stressed and tired and missed my family. Ill accept most tiny places but I need to be able to park and a guest will need to be able to park comfortably. And that was for the majority of my working career. Those hours add up, and a few extra dollars isnt always worth a longer commute. I am all for better public transportation infrastructure my coworkers are used to my bemoaning the USs lack of a functional train system whenever I have to book a plane, shuttle, and car for a 400 mile business trip :) I am totally prepared to be an early adopter of self-driving cars though as soon as there are safe options I can afford. DC area. The rest of the year would probably be fine weather-wise! For a while, my husband and I were both commuting in opposite directions from our house, each taking roughly an hour. However, I used to commute down to South Lake Union every day, and the commute was easily 2 hours each way, sometimes longer. (and if you dont I can confirm it really makes a difference having gone from not much exercise to running regularly). We were in Huntington Beach and decided to go to Hollywood. Brea, Yorba Linda and Anaheim Hills just have freeways. Or Glendale to Long Beach. Id love to do that walk in the morning, but maybe not so much in the afternoon! to 75 min. I love reading, but I have a really difficult time keeping my focused on audiobooks or podcasts or any kind of talking that I need to pay close attention to, and if Im driving I cant follow it at all. Good weather, goodish food, non-crazy commutes, relatively low housing prices and good jobs available. Yes! Yeah my other sister lives in Issaquah, and I hear the traffic is getting just as bad as it is where Im at now. I realize its a bit hyperbolic but almost nobody (relatively speaking) has a home in Los Angeles (city) they live in thousands of surrounding communities in the greater LA area and where you live has a lot of class distinctions. I used to work 45 minutes away (office moved farther away) and had a 5:30 am 2 pm shift. I do change out of pajamas! For some years, I commuted from the SFV (San Fernando Valley) to the SGV. Freeways everywhere, and theyre all jampacked. Parts of California are very affordable just not the parts near a major city. im moving from just north of the city to queen anne in a few weeks, my 1+hr bus ride will turn into a 20 minute walk to work. You could cycle 8 miles in 30 mins. My commute is an hour and 10 minutes on average by bus, but I read a lot or nap. I live on the edge of Boston and have either worked in the city or had a reverse commute for a decade, but given the whimsical nature of Boston/suburban road layout and our subway system in relation to where my apartment actually is, the shortest commute Ive ever had has been 45 minutes door to door, usually closer to an hour. We looked at rent in the bay area (my wife was thinking about applying for some companies there) and noped out. I hit a raccoon, squirrel, snake and deer with my car. The only way I see people make it work is to have jobs you can start really early like be in the office at 6:00 AM and leave work at 2:oo PM. The best thing I could find to do was use alternate county backroads to get home once I got off the beltwayit doesnt get me home any faster but as I tell my husband, its the illusion of getting home faster because at least Im constantly moving and not killing my knees pumping the brakes! On public transportation! You forgot all of the American citizens (from all over) with legal licenses who drive like utter shit. Do you have any ability to move closer to work? Make sure you check the commute times for any potential employers. Ive lived in Queens and Manhattan and have never had a commute less than one hour. Instead of arriving early and leaving early, do the opposite (say 10:30am to 6:30pm). While my to the office commute was short, I did travel alot and the drive to/from LAX was horrible. I had to do it in the days before traffic apps like WAZE and MAN, it was nightmarish. People build up, not out, because we dont have NIMBYs. Am I crazy? I no longer am off at noon on Fridays, but Im also on top of chores and household tasks, so that by Friday Im off Im not spending it cleaning the whole house. With no traffic it would be about 20-25 minutes, with traffic it could be 45 minutes or longer of gridlock, plus parking is expensive. LA math: 4 blocks closer = $100K more -30 minutes of your life back every day x 365 = sanity-debt. San Diego is still not that bad- like several have said- employers here are starting to get better about flexible start/end times to stagger traffic. Getting off and going home had no lucky 5 minute window. OP said flex time is very likely not an option, unfortunately. Whats better spending 2 hours on the bus, or 1 hour in the car and 1 extra hour at work? This is interesting to hear! To be honest, its really all about you and what you can handle. Every time I get salty about our COL I remember that California is above and far beyond. Honestly . A non-resident worker (NRW) who works as a cleaner in Macau but lives in Zhuhai tested positive for COVID-19 in Zhuhai on Monday, Macau's Novel Coronavirus Response and Coordina Unfortunately, for that area and the commute you are doing 1.5 is the norm. 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